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[GLinus]

Följande ledare på Bell of lost souls handlar om något som en del spelare behöver påminnas om:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/01/ ... -game.html

[PatrikW]

Söt mössa =)

Och bra text med.

[Silversixx]

Bah, jag föredrar:

Wednesday, July 09, 2008
My mission
By Stelek

Edited to make this look better:

I've been attending GT's for a very long time. I've been in and out of the gaming world that is the GW universe for a long time. I can spot crap in their games like nobody's business. I've been a silent watching member of the online GW community for a very long time (a decade or so).

I've seen alot of bullshit come down the pipe from GW. I've seen alot of good. Sadly, the mix lately has been mostly bullshit. The company isn't doing well fiscally with reason, people like me (called whales) have refused to buy their crap anymore. We're just a piece of the pie, but when alot of gamers ask us what a good list is out of the latest book and we go "nothing, it's all crap"...it influences their buying decisions, because who wants to take the money and time to get an army if it will just get demolished and not be any fun?

Now, GW had a contest a while ago, the 40K 2500 point 'Ard Boyz'. It was pretty much a fiasco. Add in the extra fiasco of the team tournament at Las Vegas last year, (I will explain that in a minute) and I realized no one was complaining AT games workshop anymore. They were just complaining ABOUT games workshop, and it was general internet silliness with no impact.
Their tournament system was bad before it was gutted, and it really hasn't improved. I've played at quite a few Indy's and I have alot of scorn for them and the assholes they bring to the hobby (and the hobbyists who they drive away).

So, enter Dakka. I've long since given up on most forums as just a bunch of white noise. At least on Dakka, there is intelligence. You could put up the truth, and people wouldn't bury their heads in the sand and cry out 'no mas!' So I decided since GW has been ignoring my complaints sent privately for years now, to take them public.

Their game system needed improvement. Their army list design was getting worse, not better. Their models were still 'wow' and 'uhh wow'. Their tournaments are 'gee, you won with that piece of shit army painted by golden-demon-painter-but-you-didn't-check-the-box' bullshit.

All of this can be fixed, but without someone being loud and telling GW why they are failing and at least offering some constructive ideas...they can take them or leave them, but for all the bright guys they've got they are doing a real good job of running the company into the ground.

I don't want that, because I want Hasbro or Wizards running GW like I want a hole in the head.

So, I want better gaming. I want people to show up at tournaments with deadly lists, not just 'hurr I have 190 guys'. I want those armies to be beautiful hobby pieces. I want the tournaments to recognize real talent not who the best asskisser is (I have alot of gaming talent, most "winners" don't--sorry fellas, I've seen you play, I've played alot of you, and I've seen your armies...and you don't impress me). I want GW to write better rules, even if those rules are made by fans and incorporated (but hopefully not that stuff the BOLS make, they are way too close to GW standards to be much use).

Why? Am I bitter in winning at GT's constantly but being unable to take a top prize? Not really. I enjoy winning, but to be honest--it's getting boring. I've walked through quite a few guys who've won the previous year, without even knowing it until they email me months later to talk tactics. Yes, I am one of the few guys that gives out my phone number and email address to people I don't know. I also ask for same, so I can call or email them later and see how I was an asshole (the answer is almost always my list--that's not being an asshole, dipshits, that's being a better list maker than you!).

So, about those fiascos. The 2500 point 'Ard Boyz' was run poorly. I think the 3500 point Fantasy Ard Boyz this year has already fizzled out, probably because there isn't as large a fanbase for fantasy...and playing Herohammer turns most people off. Or if you prefer, the obvious marketing ploy of getting you to buy a new army was a turn off. You can't sell that way, GW. You haven't learned that lesson yet. Apocacrap failed and hurt your business because of how obvious it was you were out to sell huge amounts of models for "less". Guess what? You dicked us with your high prices for too long, and you did not LOWER your other prices, so unless I was willing to get a "discount" of 10% by paying 300+ for something...I can't have a discount? Yeah, supermarkets would love to be able to pull that shit. They've failed for fifty years to get that over on the public. You think we, the gamer set, are stupid and will fall for what the general public won't? Right. We put up with your bullshit because there isn't an alternative...well, there sure as shit is now. How's that market share? Down another 5%?

The second fiasco was the team tournament. It wasn't a fiasco from GW's standpoint. It was a fiasco from a competitive standpoint. My buddy and I went in with two totally different armies, and we ended up playing for the win. We didn't have a army setup for this, we just outskilled the idiots we were setup to play against. Then we hit a army with 'win' in mind, and we got rolled. How sad is it though, that me and a GT newbie (my buddy) could come so close? He has been playing me for a long time with a suboptimal army (Sisters) and he did better than I expected with his Sisters. So well, he placed in the top 25 for battle points. At the GW GT's, I am the only other one to ever do so. In short, I'm damn proud of him.

I think alot of people believe tactics are meaningless in 40k. I know alot of people believe you can just write a list and autobeat the other guy with some dice rolling that is statistically average.

This is not true. I am an excellent tactician. I will take YOUR list, and beat MY list with you playing it. Even if your list is shit. I can play lower points, and beat you. I've taken armies to GT's and tabled 300 points, just so the game is competitive. I asked if I could "officially" run say a 1250 army at the LVGT, but was asked not to because it seemed like I was trying to prove a point. Of course I am. That's why I've started talking on Dakka, duh!

I think every person I've played at GT's in the last ten years has sucked. The tactics, the list, the knowledge of the rules--critical and constant failure in two out of the three is very disappointing and makes my win less so, even if it is inevitable.

I blame GW for this. Their comp system is still scarring the tournaments of today, despite being removed years ago (because "honor" means shit in all sports, duh). They refuse to fix the soft score system, although I do give props to Dave Taylor (and Jeff Hall) for doing what they can within the corporate politics that bedevils GW to this day. Make players play "fun" armies that match the battleforce box set...wait...sell more blisters...wait...make them match the WD armies...wait...wait...wait...

You know who I respect? Phil Kelly. Alot of you will say, because he makes power codices. YES! CORRECT! He also makes FLEXDEXES! You can make more than one bloody army out of them!

He makes codices that make me want to buy GW models! The other designers make me sell my armies! I sold my beloved Sisters when Hoare fucked them up with the Carnival units.
I haven't touched a loyalist marine army, ever. I just can't do it. They need to be SCARY, but instead they make me giggle.

This is another failure of GW's, making the most popular army the worst. You can just balance all the armies properly. Most companies have a large customer service department for when they don't do playtesting, but GW does not. So they just lose more money when shit codices come out.

So my mission? To give every player the tools to make a better list. To understand tactics without having to go to military school. To grasp the fundamentals of the game system without having to have a law degree.

That's why I post on dakka.

That's why I am speaking up.

Addressing all three is something all of the "elite" players refuse to share with others. Well, fuck them. They aren't "elite". I can trash them all. So can YOU! Sight unseen, they suck. Know why? They don't share with others, they just take and take what little knowledge is out on the internet, they bring last years winner to this years tournaments and think they're good. I'm confident enough in my abilities to know 99 times out of 100 I can beat anyone. I want YOU, the average GW gamer, to be skilled at the game...to understand it...to know lists like I do. I want you to challenge your local game groups, and if they call you cheesy--ask them why. Whose fault is it that Tyranids walk all over Dark Angels? Did YOU write the rules, or the codices?

Maybe everyone should open their eyes to the fact GW is in crisis and needs their customer base to speak up--LOUDLY. GW finally came out with an airbrush (fail) and washes (not fail) but it took HOW LONG? Hello? It isn't that fucking hard. If I can mix them in my HOUSE, with just ME and MY resources...why can't GW? Everyone bitches, but does nothing. I tell GW what is wrong and what is right with their game every time I post. They aren't blind. They can pretend like it doesn't matter, but when enough people understand there are less than 3 useful total armies you can build in each book...and the whole point of the book is to sell models, but there are literally dozens of possible army combos in each book--well, what the fuck?

I want to empower everyone to be a better overall hobbyist.

If your army sucks, I will tell you.
If your rules knowledge sucks, I will tell you.
If your conversions suck, I will tell you.
If your painting sucks, I will tell you.

I expect the same. If I'm wrong, fine I'm wrong. If I'm right, and you refuse to correct it...well, that's fine too. It's on you though when I roll you.

So my 2 cents:

When was the last time YOU gave to your fellow gamers? Really gave? Did a demo game? Explained the rules kindly? Showed tactics you use to beat them?

When was the last time YOU sent a real actual letter to GW in the UK with your complaints, concerns? Explained why you can't buy a product? Why a codex disappoints? Why you will spend your money elsewhere if they don't fucking shape up?

YOU NEED TO DO ALL OF IT, AND MORE!

I do. Why can't you?

[sourpus]

ser eldkastaren komma redan nu...

[Falkman]

Briljant post av Stelek, helt klart bland det bättre jag läst på forum på ett bra tag.

[egge]

Jag vet inte. Ser inte det brilljanta i det. Är han bitter på GW för att han aldrig har kommit tvåa eller sämre på en GT eller för att han tydligen inte kan förlora om någon byter lista med honom eller är det för att han vill ta fram 300 poäng på bordet för att bevisa hur grymt bra han är och kan vinna en 1500 pts turnering på det sättet? Alla hans motståndare på GT de senaste åren har varit sämre än honom? Har han alltså alltid vunnit? Coolt!

Jag ser att han vill att GW skall förbättra sig för det finns,enligt honom endast en power build i varje codex men ser inte riktigt vad som är kontentan av hans post.

[sourpus]

håller inte med Falkman. finns så mycket att invända mot Steleks post att jag knappt vet var jag ska börja..
men vill man bara flame:a så..

[Falkman]

Men det gör han ju inte.
Istället för att köra med gull-gulltjafset om att det är varje spelares "ansvar" att designa snälla och trevliga listor så att det blir en kul match för alla, så påvisar han ju att det är GW som gör fel. Gjorde dom balanserade arméer skulle man inte behöva "snälla till" sina listor själv, men nu är GWs speldesigners helt odugliga på balans uppenbarligen för dom klarar ju inte av att göra sitt jobb.
Visst, hans skryt om hur duktig han är hade han ju kunnat lämna utanför det hela, men kontentan av hans post är ju att det är GW som kört spelet (spelen) i botten, så varför ska vi sitta och gnälla på VARANDRA när det är GW som är problemet.

[Silversixx]

Hoho, den riktiga Falkman måste undra vem den här tvärtom-tvillingbroden är!

[Falkman]

I say what?